Wednesday, March 17, 2010

Sleeping changes

The acquisition of Jon's company is complete and he officially starts working for Big Blue on April 1. He will be working from home full-time and we still don't know how much his travel will increase or decrease. We've decided that sharing the bonus room over our one-car garage as a joint office is not maintainable for the long haul so we have to make some changes. (For those that don't know, I also telecommute full time.)

We have moved Nate back in with Alex. We're hoping to use the guest room as a combination guest room and office for Jon. We're nervous about this as previous attempts to move them back together have been disastrous. Last night was Day One and there was no fighting, but they played until 10:30 when I went in and patted their backs until they quieted down. The other issue is on day care days, they nap but they do not need a nap, so they are genuinely not tired until 9PM or later.

Does anyone have any tips for getting kids this young to successfully share a room? We're considering leaving a small light on to let them play and going in to turn it off to signal it is quiet time. Tips and encouragement are very welcome, particularly encouragement!

24 comments:

London said...

No advice as of yet. (Mine are going to be sharing come May, yikes!) But I wanted to say good luck!

Beth said...

I got nothing. And I hope William and Seth share a room once Seth starts sleeping in a bed. But I'll wait and see how your plan works out first. LOL!

HeatherV said...

Thinking some 1970s hanging shag beads just to see the number of mins they last. Too early for bunk beds (again see bead comment) but I do think giving them their own piece of room would be helpful. I will ask Chrissy who moved Connor and Liam together a couple of years ago with success at ages 4/6.

They currently have super cool bed tents that give some personal space. I think she got them at IKEA.

Joanna said...

Despite our persistent competition and arguments, my sister and I actually shared a room for many years and it went pretty well. We even shared a double bed for a few of those years. If we could do it, I'm sure your boys can.

The rest of this comment has been redacted to keep in line with your request for encouragement.

Also, have you contacted a Realtor yet?

Sadia said...

Didn't Liz (Goddess) once mention a nightlight with sun and moon settings? That might help cue them. Alternately, if they're comfortable reading numbers, you can show them how to read a digital clock.

I've recently invested in an egg timer, and it's done WONDERS to get Melly moving a little faster.

I can't remember if you have a video monitor, but perhaps you can do a sticker chart to reward staying in bed after lights out.

Michele said...

We do the light thing, but it's out in the hallway. As long as they stay on their beds, they can do whatever or talk until we turn the hallway light off at 8:30. (After us leaving the room at 7:30). So they've got an hour to themselves.

Michelle said...

Hi! I decided I'd come out of the lurking shaddows for a moment here! My two oldest boys just started sharing a room last month. At first, we put them both to bed at the same time. We did this for about a week. It was torture! Now, we put Liam (2 years old) to bed a half hour before Spencer (3.75 years old). So far it's working wonderfully!

Joanna said...

I haven't combined mine yet, either, but I think your idea of the nightlight as a signal is a viable option. I'll also throw this out there: you could consider using white noise, too. This might drown out the sound of one twin playing if the other wants to sleep. I use this with my toddler, and now it doesn't matter where I put her down, even when there is slight noise disturbance. You could consider it a signal with a bonus feature.

Lindsay said...

Another plug for our awesome night light. You set the time when it turns (1) yellow and (2) green and (3) off. We use yellow to indicate "time for bed" and green to indicate "time to get up," but I don't see why you couldn't use them differently.

http://www.amazon.com/American-Innovative-Teach-Talking-Nightlight/dp/B0019IHE8I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=toys-and-games&qid=1268836678&sr=8-1

DesiDVM said...

No real advice, but my twin sis and I shared a room until we went to college. Not sure exactly how my mom did it but I do remember ALOT of nights with her banging on our door yelling "Stop talking! Go to sleep!!" LOL.

I don't think they're too young for bunk beds. We got bunk beds for our 3rd birthday and stayed in them until we were around 6-7. Once Jr. is STTN I would love to have the boys share a room so we can have a real guest room/office.

Heidi O said...

What has worked best for us is first bunk beds. Then we split them up. We read to them in two different rooms and stagger the bedtime. Maybe with the twins, you could do an every other night by 15 to 20 minutes. And if it is just me, I have one do leapster while I read to the other and then read to the leapster one after the first goes to bed. It gives the first a chance to settle down before the second comes in the room.

Heidi O said...

Oh and if you don't want to do full on bunk beds, Ikea makes a loft bed for young kids where you can put mattress under it to make it be like bunk beds.

House of Blues said...

Oh Laura, all I can do is wish you luck...I cant even get one 3.75 year old to go to bed before midnight...ugh. I was actually coming to your blog in hopes of some advice for myself LOL....so....GOOD LUCK!! =) keep us posted!

Karen said...

No advice here either but wanted to wish you luck in having the boys sharing a room!!

Mommy, Esq. said...

Let's disucss the home office. :) I do share with my husband but I understand that after a few days together (especially if there are conference calls) it can be challenging. My husband often wears headphones which is good because then I don't talk to him. I know you are worried about the boys but I'm wondering how this will impact YOU. You've been the single supermom for so long are you ready to let that go? While Jon's help is wonderful now it is in part because it has been fleeting and even if you establish parenting rules together in the past you were the one who told him what worked. Okay, you see where I am going here - any thoughts on that process? I often feel like Jon when I am re-integrating myself back with the kids after working long hours but I also feel the supermom pull that you might.

Anonymous said...

try the tot clock- another multiple mom recommended it: http://www.mytotclock.com/home.php?osCsid=um4h2ivh7qq7mjbldnbh712ig3

RaJen said...

not for the same reasons, but we just ordered My Tot Clock, with face plate colors changing with times pre-determined by the adults.

Beth said...

Sorry to hijack your blog comments, Laura, but to all the people who use a night light or the tot clock or teach their kids to read a clock--did your kids actually obey the instructions the first time? You said, "Stop talking and playing when the clock turns red," and they did? Or, "Don't come out of your room until the clock turns green," and they didn't? What's the enforcement, or the punishment for not following the clock? That's where I'm stuck. I could put a fancy clock in William's room, but it would take several days (weeks?) of tough-ass love to get him to follow it. And I'm not even sure that would work!

Cathy said...

Laura, our youngest three share a room, and then the next two above them share. My son has his own room.

They have shared for most of their lives. We have dimmer switches on all of the kids' rooms and we do not allow them to touch the switch. We make sure they are toileted, teeth brushed, sip o water done. No excuses to be made once they are in their beds. We do the same thing every night, keep bed time the same as well. We always talk about what is happening next, especially after dinner. That way they all know what is expected of them.

Do they play and fool around YES. However, if they get a bit loud we dim the switch. We allow them one book in bed, but no toys in the room. This has helped a lot.

I could go on and on, but eventually they will do well. Good luck!

Anonymous said...

maybe instead of having to go in to turn off the light put it on a timer (like a christmas light timer) and when it goes off they have to go to bed. that way they won't get so excited if you come in. we use this trick with my soon to be 4 year old

shannon

Anonymous said...

maybe instead of having to go in to turn off the light put it on a timer (like a christmas light timer) and when it goes off they have to go to bed. that way they won't get so excited if you come in. we use this trick with my soon to be 4 year old

shannon

Anonymous said...

M & W have always shared a room. We don't have any issues because Chris stays in the room until they fall asleep. This was so totally the advice and encouragement you were looking for, right? :)
The good news is that it takes just a few minutes for them to fall asleep once we finish our routine and I make my grand exit. Surely they'll be able to go to sleep on their own by the time they're 18!
-RobinJ

Becky @ Our Sweet Peas said...

I feel so spoiled that I get to read about you tackling these issues before I have to. It really isn't fair but I am appreciative, I promise! :) I hope it goes well.

I shared a room with my sis but I don't think it counts b/c she was 2 1/2 yrs older and I remember her telling my to shut up b/c she was tired and wanted to sleep. That isn't happening with twins. The boys have to move back in together by summer so I will be in the same boat soon.

2Forgetful said...

My girls have always shared a room. However, we didn't put anything except books in their room until they stopped napping at 2.75 yrs. Once they stopped napping they were so tired at bedtime they didn't want to play.

We did go through a period where they wanted to play but we started a strict no getting out of bed rule after lights out. If they aren't tired they can read books in their bed or play with their stuffed animals quietly. If they get out of bed they lose a stuffed animal.

Hang in there! I love having the girls share a room. Fairly often on the weekends, the girls would let us sleep in because they are playing with their train table or dollhouse.

Good luck!